Ubuntu - how does this show up elsewhere? - SOLWorld2024-03-28T13:29:28Zhttp://solworld.org/forum/topics/ubuntu-how-does-this-show-up?groupUrl=solworldafrica&commentId=2102269%3AComment%3A27482&groupId=2102269%3AGroup%3A27103&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Lizette - thanks for the a…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-16:2102269:Comment:277042010-08-16T19:51:28.481ZSvea van der Hoornhttp://solworld.org/profile/SveavanderHoorn
Hi Lizette - thanks for the alerts. Now I am getting seriously pleased and excited about the potential for this form of sharing resources and ideas.
Hi Lizette - thanks for the alerts. Now I am getting seriously pleased and excited about the potential for this form of sharing resources and ideas. Thanks for the link, Svea.
Di…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-16:2102269:Comment:277022010-08-16T19:14:30.461ZLizette Retiefhttp://solworld.org/profile/LizetteRetief
Thanks for the link, Svea.<br />
Did you know that there was a first TEDx event in South Africa (in Stellenbosch) this past Friday? Apparently attended by 500 people. This included my husband and he was hugely inspired by all the presenters' stories. Check out: TEDxStellenbosch.org. They seem to be planning on publishing videos of this event soon as well. Relating to Ubuntu, it may be worthwhile looking out for the presentation of Vibha Pinglé of 'Ubuntu at Work'.
Thanks for the link, Svea.<br />
Did you know that there was a first TEDx event in South Africa (in Stellenbosch) this past Friday? Apparently attended by 500 people. This included my husband and he was hugely inspired by all the presenters' stories. Check out: TEDxStellenbosch.org. They seem to be planning on publishing videos of this event soon as well. Relating to Ubuntu, it may be worthwhile looking out for the presentation of Vibha Pinglé of 'Ubuntu at Work'. Hi Anton,
I have just went th…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-16:2102269:Comment:277012010-08-16T18:59:02.888ZLizette Retiefhttp://solworld.org/profile/LizetteRetief
Hi Anton,<br />
I have just went through your exercise in '57 SF Activities' (which I'm very glad to have on my bookshelf!). I really like it and it aligns very much with what we (my business - Coaching Cafe) try to do in many business context that we work in. I would love to use it and can give you some feedback around how it works out if you are interested. Not sure when the opportunity will present itself, so let's see. I can actually also see some one-on-one coaching applications for the exercise…
Hi Anton,<br />
I have just went through your exercise in '57 SF Activities' (which I'm very glad to have on my bookshelf!). I really like it and it aligns very much with what we (my business - Coaching Cafe) try to do in many business context that we work in. I would love to use it and can give you some feedback around how it works out if you are interested. Not sure when the opportunity will present itself, so let's see. I can actually also see some one-on-one coaching applications for the exercise - if the client has a strong learning/development agenda and wants to try something different and creative.<br />
I agree that we have seen some truly inspiring embodiment of Ubuntu in South Africa, which seemed nothing short than miraculous at the time! I am somewhat of a believer in aligning your actions with your proclaimed value system to live with integrity and a sense of authenticity (and of course people make all kinds of deductions about what you value most from observing your behaviour - or non-behaviour, which gets into the interactional space again). People like Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu has consistenly lived the ideals that they proclaimed and this in itself is something to live up to.<br />
I am reminded again why I am doing the work that I am, and why I chose to practice mainly in a solution focused way, as the huge respect (and diginity) you need to treat your clients with seems to deeply acknowledge and affirm people's humanness and the uniqueness that comes with each person. Seems TED talks is reflecting…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-13:2102269:Comment:275812010-08-13T21:14:21.999ZSvea van der Hoornhttp://solworld.org/profile/SveavanderHoorn
Seems TED talks is reflecting on this concept too - Chris Abani - "Chris Abani tells stories of people: People standing up to soldiers. People being compassionate. People being human and reclaiming their humanity. It's "ubuntu," he says: the only way for me to be human is for you to reflect my humanity back at me."<br />
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<a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/chris_abani_muses_on_humanity.html" target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/chris_abani_muses_on_humanity.html</a><br />
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Seems TED talks is reflecting on this concept too - Chris Abani - "Chris Abani tells stories of people: People standing up to soldiers. People being compassionate. People being human and reclaiming their humanity. It's "ubuntu," he says: the only way for me to be human is for you to reflect my humanity back at me."<br />
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<a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/chris_abani_muses_on_humanity.html" target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/chris_abani_muses_on_humanity.html</a><br />
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Comments welcome hi
No, decided I needed to he…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-11:2102269:Comment:274872010-08-11T10:23:55.595ZSvea van der Hoornhttp://solworld.org/profile/SveavanderHoorn
hi<br />
No, decided I needed to head home as the timing was just too stretched to be away. very sorry as i would have liked to experience the Sunday programme in particular.<br />
Are you attending EBTA? If yes, are you willing to correspond afterwards about some of your experiences?<br />
I'm very keen to continue thinking about how space and time shows up in relation to SFB thought and practice. EBTA promises to offer some insight into what has stayed the same and what is changing over time. Also, how culture…
hi<br />
No, decided I needed to head home as the timing was just too stretched to be away. very sorry as i would have liked to experience the Sunday programme in particular.<br />
Are you attending EBTA? If yes, are you willing to correspond afterwards about some of your experiences?<br />
I'm very keen to continue thinking about how space and time shows up in relation to SFB thought and practice. EBTA promises to offer some insight into what has stayed the same and what is changing over time. Also, how culture and context shapes our understandings and how we do our work.<br />
Enjoy the SOLWorld retreat. Svea Hi Svea, I'll be at the SOLWo…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-11:2102269:Comment:274862010-08-11T08:32:46.634ZAnton Stellamanshttp://solworld.org/profile/AntonStellamans
Hi Svea, I'll be at the SOLWorld Summer Retreat in Switzerland during that ODWS conference. Are you perhaps attending EBTA in Malmö this year?
Hi Svea, I'll be at the SOLWorld Summer Retreat in Switzerland during that ODWS conference. Are you perhaps attending EBTA in Malmö this year? hi Anton
Thanks for thoughts…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-11:2102269:Comment:274852010-08-11T08:01:56.447ZSvea van der Hoornhttp://solworld.org/profile/SveavanderHoorn
hi Anton<br />
Thanks for thoughts I'll be reflecting on some more.<br />
I like the nuancing and delicacy which is showing up in this discussion.... makes me think that words really are still magic. And that paying attention to what we say and how we say it is a worthwhile creative activity as it can open possibilities as much as close things down.<br />
Are you attending ODWS in Budapest 22-26 Aug 2010? I'll be there and would be good to talk some more.<br />
svea
hi Anton<br />
Thanks for thoughts I'll be reflecting on some more.<br />
I like the nuancing and delicacy which is showing up in this discussion.... makes me think that words really are still magic. And that paying attention to what we say and how we say it is a worthwhile creative activity as it can open possibilities as much as close things down.<br />
Are you attending ODWS in Budapest 22-26 Aug 2010? I'll be there and would be good to talk some more.<br />
svea Hi Svea, I had a stimulating…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-11:2102269:Comment:274822010-08-11T07:42:15.498ZAnton Stellamanshttp://solworld.org/profile/AntonStellamans
Hi Svea, I had a stimulating opportunity last month of joining a small colloquium with Betty-Alice Erickson and Nora Bateson, the daughters of their illustrious fathers. They talked at length about what they learnt from them and how they taught them. The topic of interconnectedness was omnipresent. Nora presented the film she is making on her father. More on this project can be found here:…
Hi Svea, I had a stimulating opportunity last month of joining a small colloquium with Betty-Alice Erickson and Nora Bateson, the daughters of their illustrious fathers. They talked at length about what they learnt from them and how they taught them. The topic of interconnectedness was omnipresent. Nora presented the film she is making on her father. More on this project can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://www.anecologyofmind.com/Home_Page.php" target="_blank">http://www.anecologyofmind.com/Home_Page.php</a> Hi Lizette. Good remark, than…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-11:2102269:Comment:274812010-08-11T07:37:53.532ZAnton Stellamanshttp://solworld.org/profile/AntonStellamans
Hi Lizette. Good remark, thank you for stimulating my thoughts on this topic! Indeed: SFB is a way of doing things and should not be linked to easily with value systems, philosophies or theories. When I talk about Ubuntu in workshops on SF, I use to show what interdependency and interactionality means in real life. It gives life to these concepts. I let them discover that what they have become (and will become) is very much linked to the interactions they had (positive and negative) with other…
Hi Lizette. Good remark, thank you for stimulating my thoughts on this topic! Indeed: SFB is a way of doing things and should not be linked to easily with value systems, philosophies or theories. When I talk about Ubuntu in workshops on SF, I use to show what interdependency and interactionality means in real life. It gives life to these concepts. I let them discover that what they have become (and will become) is very much linked to the interactions they had (positive and negative) with other people. (Liselotte and I have developed an exercise on this which is published in "57 SF Activities").<br />
So, although I really like the philosophy of Ubuntu, I am not preaching it, nor do I present it as a solution for disrupted communities. However, the practice of Ubuntu: the acts of forgiving, the truth and reconciliation commission, the exemplary life of Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu, etc. these interactions can inspire our practice. I'm curious to know more abou…tag:solworld.org,2010-08-10:2102269:Comment:274602010-08-10T18:28:44.210ZLizette Retiefhttp://solworld.org/profile/LizetteRetief
I'm curious to know more about 'the power of strange attractors' you refer to, Svea?<br />
I think ubuntu has indeed resulted in positive and negative influences in the South African history. As ubuntu refers to a world view / value system (way of being), and SFB work keeps it focused very much on interactional definitions, which to me refers more to a 'way of doing', it is interesting for me to consider whether holding an ubuntu value system aligns with (or results in?) an SF way of doing (for an SF…
I'm curious to know more about 'the power of strange attractors' you refer to, Svea?<br />
I think ubuntu has indeed resulted in positive and negative influences in the South African history. As ubuntu refers to a world view / value system (way of being), and SFB work keeps it focused very much on interactional definitions, which to me refers more to a 'way of doing', it is interesting for me to consider whether holding an ubuntu value system aligns with (or results in?) an SF way of doing (for an SF practitioner)? I'm also wondering how an SFB way of working can maximise the potential benefits of collectives that choose or wants to choose to operate in a way that lives the 'ubuntu' values. This seems to pop up quite often in South African organisational and community contexts.